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down the flag and didn't hurt anybody inside. in benghazi, the less like that it seems. it was a commando-style raid in benghazi where militants may have been angry about the same video but clearly moved in with a military style tactic. they had r the gs, heavy ma svein machine guns. it was two waves. that's not the spontaneous mob activity like we saw here in cairo. that's the kind of thing in benghazi carried out by a militant group, a terrorist group, by al qaeda potentially. and u.s. officials are looking in to that right now. also, wondering was it just a coincidence that the u.s. ambassador who's based in tripoli happened to be in benghazi at the very time of the attack? so, a lot of questions but it's clear now that these were two very different incidents. spontaneous uprising that resulted in no casualties here in cairo and a guerrilla assault in benghazi that killed the u.s. ambassador. >>> all right. here with us now is former u.s. ambassador mark ginsburg. mark, i want to start with the response yesterday from the u.s. embassy in cairo. what the statement the
/11 anniversary retribution of the united states because they new ambassador stevens was in benghazi. americans should have faith that the libyan examiner is very much worth pursuing. >> ambassador ginsberg, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> up next, just 53 days to the election. of course, all this is getting politicized. we'll bring it down many the spin cycle next on this friday, september 14th. ♪ ♪ i can do anything ♪ i can do anything today ♪ i can go anywhere ♪ i can go anywhere today ♪ la la la la la la la [ male announcer ] dow solutions help millions of people by helping to make gluten free bread that doesn't taste gluten free. together, the elements of science and the human element can solve anything. solutionism. the new optimism. i'm also a survivor of ovarian a writand uterine cancers. and the human element can solve anything. i even wrote a play about that. my symptoms were a pain in my abdomen and periods that were heavier and longer than usual for me. if you have symptoms that last two weeks or longer, be brave, go to the doctor. ovarian and uterine cancers are
security across the region. let's start with nbc foreign correspondent in benghazi, the most violent example the week. amin, about 50 are in custody about the attack on the consulate. many say it's not about the film. it's a smoke screen for attacks they were planned and not spontaneous. what are you hearing? >> it's important to put it in the proper perspective across the region. what happened in benghazi is different than in other places. according to libyan officials we've been speaking to and even by that assessment from u.s. ambassador to the u.n. susan rice, the protests at the benghazi were sfont nus. it's what happened during the protests in terms of attack on the u.s. consulaequenculate tha difference of opinion. libyans think it was a preplanned attack. it was a group of people that came into the country in the wake of revolution and exploited the security vacuum in the country and planned to carry out an attack on the diplomatic facility. something that happened previously over the past several months on other targets. the rest of the muslim world if you experience it is a
particularly in libya and egypt. he wrote what's happen inning cairo and benghazi is a case of political opportunism by salafist islamic extrooemists who are unhappy with the success that more moderate islamist and secular in egypt and libya have had in building political support. do you agree with that statement? >> absolutely. there's a lot of intraislamic competition like the muslim brotherhood trying to take leadership in the arab world and coming to the political rise in egypt and spreading. and also the more extremely actors who also have more space to operate in the post-arab spring world. there are other broader, strategic exploitations taking place in response to this video. egypt is a really good case study for that. just looking at how many different players are nervous about the transformation with egypt with much of the old guard retiring and now the islamists asserts themselves. you have christians very nervous about that. you have elements of the military not happy with the situation. here lies an opportunity to try to make the muslim brotherhood-led government appear more
in benghazi bumps in the road to hedging on whether egypt san ally, to demoting israel as merely one of our allies to speaking at the u.n. and not meeting with my diplomats, which chuck todd called odd this morning. tell me. i want someone that i trust like you, howard, to look me in the eye and tell me with a straight face that those are not gaffes, that those are not embarrassing? >> well, i'm looking at you in the camera eye. >> all right. >> and i'm telling you that they are gaffes, and they are embarrassments. i think the president needs to be held to account for them, and i think the whole question of security arrangements in benghazi in particular in libya in general, i think the state of our knowledge, the state of our intelligence, our human intelligence in those countries is very much open to question. i think some of the president's assumptions about the arab spring are open to question. i think they're very important issues that the president needs to deal with and should be asked about. unfortunately for mitt romney, to take it back to the presidential campaign, this campaign i
isn't just that it ignores evidence that the attacks in benghazi were spontaneous, it's not just that the tape excuse perpetuates a lie or that we seem to have fallen for it. the problem is that it puts president obama in the very awkward position of insisting that we are, indeed, at war with all muslims. to believe that the uprisings around the world are over a tape that no one had seen, you'd have to believe that the whole of the muslim world, even those who live in western societies like australia, germany, and the uk, would respond with the kind of attacks we saw in libya. you'd have to believe that all muslims would see an offensive portrayal of the profit muhammad and seek retribution. you would have to believe that if a couple muslims would kill the u.s. ambassador in the name of islam, that all muslims would. if the tape is truly the catalyst, then it should be catalyzing similar assassinations around the world. so when obama, clinton, and rice talk about that video that sparked this middle east meltdown, they're promoting a narrow view of muslims that we americans have l
on the american embassy in cairo. the benghazi consulate is torched. not to mention the iranians that most americans confuse with arabs anyway who, you know, every other day you open the paper, and here's ahmadinejad or khomeini talking about holocaust denial, israel is an insult to humanity. with these relationship with the israelis remaining intact and the dysfunction, the relationship with key arab states, you'll see more continuity than change. >> is there something to worry about there? when barack obama came in, he started to apply a little bit of pressure to israel on the settlement issue. if israel is our friend and ally and we have a genuine long-term interest in stability in israel's region and the long-term health of israel, israel needs to be nudged on the settlement issue. you apply that pressure and take a lot of flack. they back off and say they've been successful by backing off and they can win re-election. is there a long-term problem there that we can't nudge israel on something they need to be nudged on? >> i worked for a couple secretaries of states, bush 41 and jim bak
in the streets, many people, today in 2012 six years after we have moderates going in the streets in benghazi and in tripoli and in cairo and saying to the extremists, stop here. you don't talk in my name. you don't talk in our name. we're against the bloodshed. we're against what you did to ambassador stevens and for the first time there's a real debate in the arab world and moderates are speaking up. they're not shying away from it and so aggressive about it. >> that's encouraging. because that is the point that freedman went on to make in the column, he cited op-eds from the region advocating of no violence and pushing back what the extreme tactics. >> we need to understand that who killed ambassador stevens were not the mobs. it was a deliberate attack of some group that is linked with al qaeda and that was a very planned, well organized and carried attack. i mean, you don't go to a demonstration with rpg-7 and with heavy weaponry. they were very well organized and they orchestrated the whole thing around the mobs but has nothing to do with the move vi, actually. >> that's clear and unfor
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